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Some heavy accusations against a heavy man. Some lies and exaggerations in there but I'll cover the major points with a message I sent to a friend who confronted me about these accusations as they were brought back up by trolls who have been banned from my pugs for being disruptive and unable to interact with others in a respectful manner.

Here are answers to the major points.

- No I never microwaved my dog.
- The bucket story wasn't mine and I retold it as if it was me for shock value.
- I don't have sex with animals. I hear some of the more edgier trolls saying this about me.
- I don't support the abuse of animals.

The details about what happened and why this was even posted. So the guy saam was talking about was a teammate of mine who got bullied a lot by other tf2 players. Granted the dude was really weird because he was always saying outrageous stuff like having sex with his dog but a lot of us didn't really believe him. He said a lot of other edgy things so we just kind of put him in the box of "He says really messed up things for laughs.". The reason why I defended him was due to being harassed by other tf2 players myself and this saam person was known to harass others unprovoked. I had wanted to defend him like I wanted someone to defend me when people started harassing me for the way I acted. It was a collection of dumb decisions on my part to even respond to this person and to post our conversation. Eventually later on in the posts I started feeding the shock value of it all by saying stupid stuff when I saw that a lot of people believed that the dude actually does that with his dog and I realized how bad it looked on me for defending him.

So to be clear, I was attempting to defend someone who I felt everyone was bullying because he was weird and cringe. Not because I felt having sex with animals was okay. I didn't believe him when he said those things and that's a big mistake on my part.

Last, this happened 9 years ago. I have attempted to erase this from the site and have even asked Mr.Slin to have it removed because its a shameful part of my history on tf2. A lot of my close friends are aware of this whole thing and know that I don't condone the abuse of animals and that I don't abuse animals myself.

As for the deleting of messages and banning of players. Most of the people who were banned for bringing this up were clearly only there to cause trouble. Didn't want to discuss it or want to know the truth about the post.

As for the deleting of the messages in the thread, that was done long before I revived my pug group.

Tbh this was a good opportunity to clear this up. I'll be around for awhile to respond if anyone would like to discuss or make fun of the way I play on spire.

I feel like if you are telling the truth then you could have told me when I confronted you about it or any else besides blocking them or banning them they tried to confront you. Anyone who tried to confront you privately would get blocked. You joined epicer pugs only to get ragged on and not deny any of the "allegations." Also its not "allegations" if they come out of your own mouth.
So please tell me why are you lying.

bro we all have seen the thread you genuinely believe that youre fooling nobody you literally implied animals can consent U rly think ur fooling literally fooling everyone u gotta be retarded bro

halfthis smelly no lie dont let this man near your animals

Rgl do something wtf

RGL can not do anything about this, the purpose of this thread was to get him removed from TF2 Coaching Central so he could stop advertising his pugs, because I do not want new players to be introduced to this psychopath when they are first shown competitive pugs. Although so far it seems that all attempts to DM shelzor have been unsuccessful. I also want to see his pug group die because I suspect he is doing some other weird things with people in that server, but without sufficient evidence I can not make any accusations let alone send anything to RGL.

Even if nothing in this thread is true this alone makes you a fucking creep dude.

oh hey an atomisk thread in 2024, neat.

this guy plays like a loser on spire. Counterjumps to low ground and then rebombs. no wonder he microwaves dogs or whatever

https://i.imgur.com/f5wzYZ8.png

i've heard that growing up in the suburbs tends to be boring and soulless but i would've never guessed that it could lead to american men making up stories about being edgy animal murderers on videogame forums as an unhinged attempt to bring some mystique and spice into their past

Mb I'll chill out

its wild reading old threads/pastebins like that now cos it is obviously just saam instigating shit and atomisk telling edgy 4chan stories that were fake to begin with so saam would go away. thepepe probably did fuck his dog tho

I doubt it I looked far and wide and couldn't find these "stories" Half This refusal to apologize clearly didn't mean shit cause people still pug in his pug group, but that is their decision.

Was he wrong?

Mr. Sanity, consider if people saw your posts on here 9 years from now and asked you to explain yourself. An upstanding gentleman such as yourself would undoubtedly apologize for your prior actions, but i suspect you would still be annoyed that some passerby has decided to try and bring up your social missteps and not give you the benefit of the doubt considering the length of time that has passed. I agree that Atomsk, not to be confused with atomisk, was unnecessarily defensive upon questioning, but I invite you to question yourself and inquire into as to why that might be. I ask that you think about how people might take advantage of a weird player's bad reputation to spread rumors they shouldn't have to defend themselves against, and how that might put them on edge when they're randomly confronted about their past behavior.

Mr. sanity, I ask you this. What does it take to change the nature of a man?

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/2/old-man-in-his-study-george-gillis-haanen-1807-1879.jpg

that one time i played on a HL team with Atomisk was a adventure for sure